Found this little nugget on Trick Track.
For those of you like myself who where bummed about the non 700cc bar spinnage on the smaller Cutter Frames, they are now in the process of making this fork to remedy the situation. It's a BMX style fork which currently has a 3/8 axle but they are looking in to the possibility of making them 9mm instead in order to accommodate track wheel sets. Ronny from Volume mentioned the fork will be guaranteed for life much like the Cutter frame (current forks shipping with that frame set are not) and can be picked up separately once they are available. Get the full scoop here...
BTW, did I mention what a bad ass forum Trick Track is... :)
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Im a little bit confused. Aren't bikes usually designed around a specific fork? Putting an obviously taller fork on the bike is going to change the geometry of the bike. To me, this is no different than putting a 29'er fork on it.
I think it depends on the bike but generally, yes they are. Personally I think this fork is being offered as an alternative to going the 29'er route. How much it changes the geometry remains to be seen but based on what many folks on trick track are doing, it appears many don't care too much about the change in geometry...
I would post the question on trick track if you get a chance. I know Ronnie from Volume goes by trick track every so often but I dunno if he ever rolls through here...
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It's not an alternative, it's the same shit. People on trick track don care b/c they are fucking stupid. Trick track WTF? What are you going to hit a barspin into a fucking pursuit race. Fucking stupid. Tricks are awesome, hauling ass is awesome, velodrome is awesome. That being said, try tacking your fresh new trick bike one a track with a 0 rake fork....you can't barspin at 35 mph. I'm venting sorry.
I wear tennis shoes and don't play tennis.
I have a carabiner, but don't clime.
You gotta make sense to make Dolla$ son.
But i do remember one i was at the lehigh valley velodrome and they were just circling around the track to stay warm and there was this one dude just entertaining the crowd by doing all these old school tricks on hiss track bike with disk wheels. I thought it was pretty awesome.
And you also said that gus should bring his trick bike on the track. Maybe we should just stop calling our track bikes track bikes and just call them fixed gears. I o think the volume is an urban bike though. not sure.
Rappy, quit haten'.
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Hey Mike, when the last time you rode that Dolan on a Velodrome? That's right never, so do us all a favor and STFU. If we follow your logic, it shouldn't even be on the street. Plus, I honestly doubt they gives a fuck what Mike from Orlando thinks about their set ups... :)
It seems like you’re pissed about something else so I'm not going to be a huge asshole about the comments you made. I will say that calling the people on Trick Track “stupid” because they choose to modify their bikes for the type of riding they do is pretty weak. These guys are not hitting the velodrome in these bikes, as these setups are purely geared towards the FGFS side of things. It's completely possible to have one bike pull double duty but some people prefer to have different bike setup for different forms of riding. In my case, my ass got tired of swapping out parts (chain disk, bars, front wheel etc) when I wanted to get my trick on. It made sense to me to build two different bikes so I did...
I’m not about to speak for Volume regarding their geometry and what they where trying to accomplish with the Cutter frame and fork set. If you would have taken the time to read the thread I linked to, Volume plans to release the frame on it’s own with a choice on which fork you want to rock. I personally think this is a good move on their part as it acknowledges the difference in sets ups particular to FGFS.
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read my comment, both of you. I think "tricking" is awesome. I think to call a bike a track bike, when you have purposely made the geometry more relaxed, just so you can bar spin is fucking stupid. My bike isn't a track bike...it's got risers and a quick release front wheel for shits sake. I'll say again, TRICKS ARE COOL. Riding a track frame or track bike on the street is cool. Building a bike specifically for tricks, with non-track geometry except that it has fork ends, and trying to pretend it's a track bike is just silly.
In regards to the people on trick track, you're right, they probably aren't all stupid. The name, however, is stupid. I think both of you missed the point of my original comment. This is a bike built around a specific fork, and then they are going to put an obviously taller fork on the same frame. I just think it's a cheap way to fix things, instead of fixing the real problem.
This one time, I did a wheelie around the entire Northbrook Velodrome above the blue line.....on my track bike. Just sayin'.
Here is the word from Volume bikes,you can buy this fork or something like it.Check this link.
http://www.dmrbikes.co.uk:80/?Section=products&pageType=item&category=6&CategoryName=Forks&itemid=FRK14
Thanks
So what are fixed trick bikes called?
...I think I just answered my question.
This one time, I made an stupid ass comment on a blog that lent nothing to the discussion in either comedic form or in the way of informational value and got clowned for it. Just sayin'....
But back to the issue at hand.
Rapevan: I tried being nice but you seem to insist on coming off like a dick. Perhaps that's not your intent and maybe the delivery is getting lost because of the nature of the internet so let me just explain this as simply as possible.
First of all, your opinion (and that’s all it is mind you) is strictly based on semantics. You of all people should know the recent popularity of fixed gears have spawned all kinds of different riding styles and as a result different kinds of setups. This is why you see these odd combinations of parts. Why you get so worked up over the trick track guys name (to the point of categorizing everyone on that forum as stupid) because of these semantics is beyond me.
Second, your frame is a track frame and this is not based on opinion but rather on empirical data. This data is in the specs and geometry used to make the frame. Whether or not you rock risers and a quick release doesn’t change the basic fact you are riding a track frame on the street. Nothing wrong with that at all, just pointing out the obvious.
Third, the decision on volumes part to market this fork is based on you speculating on their intentions. It could be true, but you and I don’t know what is driving this decision so I refuse to make accusations. If this was your point from the get go, you should have fucking said so instead of delving in to so much crap regarding what designates a track bike and what does not...
Get pissed if you want about my reply, I gives a fuck anymore. Seriously...
BTW, this post was supposed to pass off information regarding an issue people were dealing with and not meant to spawn a discussion on whether or not a bike is considered a true ‘track bike”. People getting worked up over semantics was not the point and it sucks that's where it ended up going. My apologies to those that actually where interested in this info...
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Gus, I'm not exactly sure where we disagree here. I think you went into defensive mode the second I called people stupid, and haven't really come out. Let it go, it was stupid. People say stupid things sometimes. Look at the time I posted it btw....what do you think was my real issue at that time?
After reading your last post, I think I have figured out where we do disagree. I think many bikes are marketed as track bikes, lately, that simply aren't. My frame is a track frame, but that doesn't mean my bike is a track bike. My tall bike has a mountain bike frame, a road bike frame, and a beach cruiser frame...which one is it? Furthermore, we've had this discussion on ibot before. The data that you speak of, proves what I'm saying. The simple ability to barspin a 700c wheel goes against 2 major "goals", for lack of a better term, used when designing a track bike. The exception would be a bike like corey's spicer. Though I am unsure of the geometry, I could see the steep downtube angle a use of a gusset allowing for track-like geometry and the ability to barspin. This brings me back to my point. Gene spicer did his r&d and developed a product for a purpose. It's a strong track bike that can barspin a 700. It seems like volume may have been trying to develop the same thing, but came up short somewhere. Why not fix the problem? The 29er fork seems like throwing a band-aid on it, untill a new model comes out. This is, like you said, only my opinion and that's why it's here.
you guys... you're all missing the point.
Gus posted this a full two days before tracko. that's what you should all be concentrating on.
Thnx for the back up blackshaw! I just hit the forum before Tracko did is all... :)
Rapevan: I'm not gonna agitate this anymore. I think you are right in certain areas, primarily being that we are in essence on the same page in regards to the overall topic (Specifically in how things get marketed these days). And while I will agree I zeroed in on your comment, keep in mind I didn't get aggro with you until later. It was the overall crappy attitude evident though out that set me off yesterday. Your comments and the attitude towards the trick track forum was just the icing on the cake. What can I say, cause and effect. That said, life is too short to stay pissed about words on a screen and it's all water under the bridge...
Anyways, it's all good; no harm no foul. We all act like dicks eventually on the interweb...
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wait, were you actually pissed? Not just e-pissed? If so, I think maybe I won't post anymore comments on here. It's much easier to laugh stuff off in person than it is on the Internet, I suppose.
fsp much drama in the MCO
shut up hugs, you're the biggest drama queen of us all...
Rapevan: I was e pissed man, not for reals pissed. I would say it was more e-annoyed if anything.
We really need to hug you and I... :)
at least i am the best at something!
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